tv Yasmin Vossoughian Reports MSNBC May 2, 2021 12:00pm-1:00pm PDT
history says: fine jewellery for occasions. we say: forget occasions. (snap) fine jewellery for every day. good afternoon, everybody. i'm yasmin vossoughian. we have a lot of ground to cover in the two hours ahead. protests and mourning in north carolina. rallies to demand action ahead of the funeral for police shooting victim andrew brown jr. we're going to take you there live. also scenes of pandemonium as a protest leads to a destructive takeover of a soccer stadium. and the latest on the investigation into rudy giuliani and what charges he may face. plus this --
>> i don't have the fact that i wasn't a fan of our last president's character issues. >> that is senator mitt romney being booed in utah, in his state. a sign that defying the former president still comes with a price. and next hour, a very special guest, celebrated chef marcus samuelson, a new york institution. his reaction to the city's plan to reopen completely in july, and what it's going to mean to him and his workers as well. but we do want to begin in north carolina and what's happening there where a public viewing is going on right now ahead of the funeral for police shooting victim andrew brown jr., along with a 12th day of protests demanding the release of body cam footage in the case. that's where we find nbc's vaughn hillyard who is in elizabeth city, north carolina, where a viewing is being held this afternoon. also joining us is melissa murray, professor at the nyu school of law and an msnbc legal analyst. welcome to you both, guys. vaughn, i see you're marching
with some protesters there. talk us through what you've been seeing on the ground so far today. >> reporter: we're in elizabeth city, yasmin, and this march is taking place through the neighborhood of elizabeth city. they're going to march for criminal justice reform here. but there are members of andrew brown jr.'s family here. they're en route to his home and where he was killed on april 21st, more than a week and a half ago. and while district attorney weighs whether to press charges against the three deputies who shot and killed andrew brown jr., his family is here in the streets today. i want to introduce you to the mother of kahlil fairbe. what would your message be for folks who have not been to elizabeth city and never got the chance to know andrew and what that moments means to you guys. >> andrew brown was a gentle person, gentle person. he had a mild temperament. he had a sense of humor, and we miss him. we miss him terribly.
there's no reason he should have been taken from his family in the way that he was taken from his family. we are here to let the city and the county know that we want justice for andrew brown. we will have justice for andrew brown. >> reporter: this is your neighborhood. >> yes. >> reporter: to watch your community walk the streets here this afternoon, what do these last minutes mean to you and reflecting on what the country is trying to come to in terms of a racial reckoning here. >> it means so much. it shows that we have the support of the community behind us. it shows that people are tired and it shows that time has come for a change and that's what we want. >> reporter: we're waiting for videotape, the full body cam footage to be released to the family but then also the greatest public. what do you want, what is your message to the district attorney and to the judge weighing whether to release those tapes in the days ahead? >> if it was any other citizen of the city of elizabeth city,
they would be in jail sitting, waiting, being treated as guilty until they was proved innocent. i don't understand why on the other hand it's not working the same way. people should be treated just like the citizens of elizabeth city. >> reporter: mia, got bless your family and your city. thank you for your time. those three deputies are still on administrative leave at this time while the district attorney weighs. he said he would make that decision by the end of this month whether to charge the three deputies in the killing of andrew brown. >> vaughn, stick with me for a moment. melissa, you heard mia talking about the body cam footage. that's the major sticking point, what everybody is depending on. walk us through what needs to happen in order to see this body cam footage? >> i think one of the things that's unusual here and different from other situations where we've seen the release of
video footage more quickly in the course of the investigation is that there's actually a north carolina law that says that the body cam footage or any video footage can't be released unless given judicial approval. the judge in the hearing last week said he would not release this video footage until the end of the month or the conclusion of the investigation. according to the prosecution, that's not unusual in north carolina, but again it does stand in stark contrast to other situations we've seen around the country where the video footage has been forthcoming more quickly. so that is part of the discussion here. there seems to have been more transparency in other cases and perhaps it looks like less transparency and maybe something more nefarious. >> so why do you think, melissa, something like this is happening here in the state of north carolina and what needs to be done to change that so at least the family, if not just the public, but at least the family gets a viewing of the full body cam footage?
>> again, this is a part of north carolina's own legal landscape that is idiosyncratic. each particular jurisdiction can have its own rules about the release of video footage in circumstances like this, and this happens to be north carolina's rule that it can only be released with judicial approval. the judge has released some of this to the family and the family apparently has seen some of it but it hasn't been released to the greater public. there were media outlets who also petitioned to have the footage released to them and they also have been denied that request. one of the lawyers for one of the media outlets suggested that there would be an appeal of that ruling. but according to the prosecution, this is sort of standard procedure in part because if there is a formal prosecution of the officers who were involved in this, they worry that the fact that the public has already seen this footage would make it harder for there to be an impartial trial of those officers if there is one in the future. if they conclude that there is no trial or prosecution that will be forthcoming, then they
say they will release the video footage at that point. >> melissa, stick with me. i want to go back with vaughn who's on the ground in elizabeth city, north carolina. vaughn, talk to me about the funeral arrangements tomorrow for andrew brown jr. >> reporter: the funeral is tomorrow, yasmin. >> do i have you? >> reporter: yeah. the funeral procession -- tomorrow is the memorial service for andrew brown jr. if i can have marshall pan here, this is at the home of andrew brown jr. where this march has just led and everybody has kong debated. you can see the mural that has been painted on the side of andrew brown jr.'s home. marshall, do you mind getting a shot of that mural. yasmin, it's quiet here so out of respect i'm going to go away
here myself. >> melissa, as we watch this take place in elizabeth city, north carolina, and thinking about the police reform that needs to happen in this country, specifically the passage of the george floyd policing act, while they address, for instance, the body cam footage and how -- or body cams, i should say, and how every police officer should have to wear a body camera, what about some sort of federal mandate when it comes to the release of this body cam footage? this isn't the first time that we've had this kind of conversation surrounding the killing of andrew brown jr. this conversation has happened before. >> no, we have had a conversation about this. again, i want to just sort of emphasize questions of constitutionalism and federalism may make it difficult for there to be a broad federal mandate that requires local and state jurisdictions to release body
cam footage to the press or to the family in circumstances like these. criminal law and particularly the issue of policing is understood in constitutional terms to be very much a local decision. so while the federal government can encourage certain practices by conditioning grants of federal monies, they cannot con script the straits or local actors into doing particular things. there may be some constitutional limits to some broad federal mandate in that respect. but again, i think what the george floyd justice act does is to provide federal money to states who agree to comply with certain conditions, including the collection of data, the limiting of carotid holds or chokeholds and other mechanisms that were intended to provide real reforms of existing police practices but to do so with more of a carrot rather than a stick. >> vaughn hillyard, melissa murray, thank you to you both. we'll continue to watch what is happening in elizabeth city,
north carolina. if anything does change, we'll bring it back to you. coming up at 4:00 p.m. jim clyburn weighs in on police reform and the need for legislative action. we'll also get his reaction to his colleague, senator tim scott's remarks on race in america. you don't want to miss that conversation. we are also learning new details about a shooting in a wisconsin hotel that left two people dead last night. the brown county sheriff's office says the suspect was targeting a worker he knew at a restaurant connected to the oneida casino in green bay. that worker was not there so that man shot and killed two restaurant workers. the suspect was shot and killed outside the hotel. and the controversy surrounding rudy giuliani, federal investigators raided his apartment to seize electronic devices. giuliani called that illegal and continues to deny any wrongdoing as relates to the investigation into his role in the firing of former ukraine ambassador, marie
yovanovitch. giuliani has not been charged with any crimes as of yet. cori coffin is there. good to see you once again. what action have we seen on the streets today? any view of giuliani? i know we saw him yesterday morning. any updates on this investigation? >> reporter: yasmin, good afternoon. yes, so after several days of giuliani speaking about this and reacting to this and even teasing that he would have a press conference in wehawken yesterday, which did not happen, the giuliani camp is remaining quiet about these warrants. we learned there were three separate warrants that were issued. one for electronics here at giuliani's home, another for electronics in his office, which included his secretary's computer and a third for victoria toensing's electronics. she is not necessarily a focus or subject of this investigation
and she was willing to cooperate ahead of time to provide any information that they had needed. now, her name does, though, appear on a list of names that are on the search warrant. this is a fairly extensive list of people who may or may not have come in contact with giuliani that he may have sought out regarding ukraine and ambassador marie yovanovitch. along with this extensive list, included are lev parnas, igor fruman. hopefully you have the list up there right now. federal authorities and legal analysts tell us this shows it is a major ramp-up in this investigation. new reaction does continue to pour in even though the giuliani camp is quiet today. we did hear this morning from congressman adam schiff. listen to what he told us. >> the focus of the investigation appears to be was rudy giuliani this person who was basically communicating with members of congress, with the
president, was he secretly working for a foreign power, because he was making money from it or because there was some other bargain. that is, you help me get rid of the ambassador so i can help the president to do these sham investigations and i will help you in some other way, or i'll help you get rid of the ambassador for ukrainian reasons. i think that's really the predominant focus. is it possible they'll finding other corrupt things? without a doubt. i wouldn't speculate about what that is or who that may involve. >> so, still so much involved, yasmin, but giuliani said they seized eight to ten electronics. rudy giuliani has not yet been charged with a crime. yasmin. >> all right, cori coffin, thank you for that. i want to go to a video getting a lot of attention. senator mitt romney met with thunderous boos in his home state of utah at the state
republican convention. watch this. >> i don't have the fact that i wasn't a fact of our last president's character issues. and i also -- >> i want to bring in nbc's ali vitali on capitol hill. that was quite a moment, ali, to say the least in his state where romney is supposed to be a fairly popular guy. he has a lot of family history steeped in that state. tell us more about the senator's speech and the reaction. >> he got thunderous boos but he avoided the censure there from his home state republican party. narrowly, but he avoided be censured. during those remarks, romney was making a point about his disagreements with former president donald trump specifically over issues of character. and what he said during those boos was basically i have been a republican all my life. he even went so far as to remind the crowd he was the republican
standard bearer less than ten years ago, during the 2012 election cycle. i know we talk about this all the time, but it really is just another stunning marker of the way that the republican party has made such a sharp pivot in a very short period of time, away from the conservatism and republicanism that mitt romne espoused during his presidential run and then four years later and eight years later to the kind of republicanism donald trump espoused and coalesced the party behind. it's a shift a lot of republicans saw upside too when donald trump is in the white house but certainly we know that's dissidence over whether that's the route the party should keep going or if they should revert back to the conservatism of older times. >> ali, let's talk about another anti-trump republican, liz cheney, also in danger of losing her post as republican conference chair. what can you tell us about that?
>> reporter: well, in some ways, yasmin, you see the national party having this battle on the road physically when lawmakers go home, like senator mitt romney, but you're also seeing this battle happen here in the halls of congress. this is something that has been bubbling for several weeks and months now since congresswoman cheney voted to impeach then president donald trump. it was something that the former president at that time was very vocal about. he has made no secret about his ongoing vendetta against cheney. but what has happened within the republican party's ranks is as a member of leadership, there have been questions about whether or not she'll be able to hold on to that post. we know that she's been at odds with the other members of leadership on this, specifically house minority leader kevin mccarthy, but the man literally wedged between these two leaders in the republican party, congressman steve scalise, finally weighed in on this the other day. it's really interesting to hear what he had to say about it. >> i know the media likes making a lot out of some of the conversations when maybe liz
cheney takes some direct swipes at president trump. president trump is still a very active part of our party and a vocal leader in our party. >> reporter: and not just a vocal leader, yasmin. the rest of what congressman scalise said is the idea that you just disregard president trump is just -- you can't just disregard president trump, he's just where we are. and frankly, he has a lot to offer still to the party. so scalise clearly taking on what cheney has said repeatedly here. she's been clear, she does not think trump is the future of the party. she doesn't think that he should run again for president in 2024. but it's not just scalise. axios is reporting that congressman jim banks, the head of one of the powerful conservative caucuses here in the house, has even openly questioned whether or not she's going to be retaining her leadership post by the end of the month. so clearly these private questions about what is going to happen to congresswoman liz cheney beginning to be made more public here on capitol hill. those fissures very, very public
and palpable now, yasmin. >> ali vitali, thank you. coming up next hour, moderates under fire. months after an election and insurrection and inauguration of a new president, why there's still a high price to pay for republicans who want to move past trump. our all-star political panel will help break all of that down for us. as you were seeing on the left-hand side of your screen, we'll continue to watch that march for justice over the killing of andrew brown jr. in elizabeth city, north carolina. we will bring any news to you if it develops. let's take a moment and listen in to what's happening on the ground there. >> all the family, y'all come up and y'all just give us a little space. i want the family to get a photo of the family members. we have the youngest daughter of mr. andrew brown here. isn't she so beautiful. >> hold her high, baby. >> all the family come on up.
can i just get all you have in the front yard -- all right. non-family, please, if you're on the concrete, make sure you're family. all right, sir, media, please, if you're not family, get off the concrete. we'll give you all the pictures. just give us some space. >> so we're watching the march for justice in elizabeth city, north carolina, over the killing of andrew brown jr. of course all of these protesters there peacefully
protesting and asking for the body cam footage to be fully released with regards to the police killing of andrew brown jr. his funeral tomorrow as well. our correspondent, vaughn hillyard, is on the ground there covering this for us. we'll be speaking to him again later on in the hour, but for now we're going to keep an eye on this and bring you any developments if they do come up. but with that, i do want to move on to what's happening in texas right now with trump endorsing candidate susan wright who will advance to a runoff election for her late husband's seat representing the sixth congressional district. none of the candidates will meet the 50% threshold to win outright. second place came down to a battle between jake ellzey, a republican, and jana lynn sanchez, a democrat. but democrat sent out a statement conceding. meaning it will be an
all-republican runoff between wright and ellzey. joining me to talk more, daniel friend, a reporter for the texan. daniel, thanks for joining us on this. really appreciate it. so the news broke just a short time ago of the sanchez concession. the democrat out of the race. a runoff between two republicans. are you surprised by this at all? >> i'm not terribly surprised. a little bit surprised. i did think coming into the election last night that it would be a runoff between wright and sanchez. but it turns out that the democrats had not really coalesced behind sanchez as much as i thought. it turned out to be the top two republicans who are now going on to the runoff. these are the two that were the front-runners in the republican primary so it's not terribly surprising that those are the two names, but it was a little bit of a shock that that is the two republicans. >> let's talk about the trump factor, daniel, and that is the endorsement from former president donald trump of susan
wright. is trump still a major deciding factor for voters in texas? did that help her get to this runoff? >> yeah, i think that she would have gotten to the runoff even without trump's support. but i think trump's endorsement in her, especially the late endorsement is kind of a key signal that his name is still a huge factor, especially for republican voters who are still loyal to him. if it had just been early voting, which trump didn't actually get into the race until long into the early voting just last week, he didn't actually go to town hall until after early voting actually ended. so if it had just been early voting, wright and ellzey would have been separated by ten votes for the top spot. so it was a really close race in the early voting. with the election day voting it turned out to definitely swing heavily to susan wright indicating that the trump endorsement and town hall that
he went to was a key factor. it jumped for wright from 16% on the early voting data to the election day percent of 24%. whereas ellzey plummeted from 16% to 11%. so a big swing there with trump's endorsement. >> all right, daniel friend for us, thank you for joining us on this. we'll be watching that runoff election, that's for darn sure. thanks, daniel. i want to go back to elizabeth city for a moment as we are watching the march for justice for the killing of andrew brown jr., over the killing of andrew brown jr., i should say. nbc's vaughn hillyard is down there as we speak and he's covering the march for justice. are we going to be getting vaughn, guys? >> reporter: hey, yasmin. >> so take us back there as we're watching -- yeah, go ahead. go ahead, vaughn. >> reporter: we're kind of in a fluid motion here. i want to set everybody up with
where we are. there was a march this afternoon through elizabeth city. the viewing of andrew brown jr. is this afternoon, ahead of his memorial service tomorrow. we are at the home of andrew brown. there is a memorial, a mural that has been put up here. this is where the family has gathered this afternoon. i want to bring in two of the lawyers representing the family. if you could both introduce yourself before i ask you what we should expect in the days ahead. >> my name is wayne kimball, i'm one of the attorneys representing andrew brown. we're here today to commemorate his memory in this march, to call for justice for andrew brown and for all other victims of police misconduct. >> i think as folks here have been watching nationally this case, you guys and family have been able to watch about 20 seconds of body cam footage but are awaiting the full release of body cam footage by the end of the week. what do you guys expect to see from that footage, and what will
that lead to ultimately? because it's the district attorney who you're waiting for in order to press charges against the deputies. what are you guys waiting for this week? >> well, the judge ordered the release of the video to the family -- not released but disclosed to the family within ten days. we expect it to happen sometime this week. as it relates to the district attorney, if they say unlawful, unjustified killing, then we expect it based on due diligence for him to do his job, press charges and prosecute, as anybody else would be prosecuted. >> reporter: to what extent does it concern you that the district attorney has already made public statements suggesting that andrew brown hit deputies before the shots were fired? he's the individual who will be deciding whether to prosecute those very deputies. >> it's very concerning considering that the district attorney is not releasing the tape for a fair jury and at the
same time he makes comments that's not put in context. he already said the vehicle was made as a weapon. i'll show you if the vehicle was a weapon, we would have seen it. if the officers were justified, we would have seen it. it is very concerning that the official prosecuting this to make comments and not placing it in context. >> reporter: i'll have marshall pan over to where the march is continuing. i want to follow up here. you guys have both been at this a long time. i can't take away where andrew brown lost his life. there's been a national reckoning when it comes to race and the role that law enforcement plays over the last year. to watch this in these streets here this afternoon, community members come here, what does this moment mean for this community and also this country here.
>> you're right, we're standing on sacred ground. we're standing on a plot of land whereby all indications andrew brown was attempting to evade an assassination when he was shot dead in the back of the head. it is also concerning, to get back to your initial question, this district attorney was also running for judge currently, should be replaced. there should be an independent prosecutor brought in to handle this case and to take the politics out of it, to make sure that there's an independent objective investigation as to what happened on this very plot of land that we're standing on right now so that the family and all of america can know that police are accountable for their actions. >> and to that point there and i've got to send it back to yasmin, the governor has called on the district attorney to call on a special prosecutor, because until the district attorney does that, it is in the hands of him,
even if the state offers their help calling on a special prosecutor. >> i think when the chief executive officer of the state is calling for an individual prosecutor and you have a local district attorney in a judicial circuit not doing that, that's very telling. if the governor is calling, the attorney general, josh stynes, it's time for a special prosecutor. this is the exact case why a special prosecutor should be involved because the district attorney is at the hip to the people committing this act and a special prosecutor should be brought in. >> reporter: yasmin, this is the site where andrew brown jr. was killed about a week and a half ago. this is his home. and the march continues down the streets. >> vaughn, don't let those -- hey, vaughn, quickly if you can quick these attorneys with you, i actually have one more question for them seeing that the killing of andrew brown jr. happened on the heels of the
chauvin verdict. how that has changed the conversation in the city of elizabeth city, north carolina. >> reporter: yasmin's question is after the guilty verdict of derek chauvin in the minneapolis trial, how has that impacted you guys in your effort in this case? >> that's one verdict. there's a lot of nonindictments. you look at eric garner and michael brown. one is not enough. we need accountability across the board. it's great that chauvin was convicted, but it's a lot of people who was not even indicted. the officer had an opportunity to take the grand jury so the fight continues. that's one, that's great, but we want transparency, justice. if you kill people, no matter if you have a badge, shield or star, you should be held accountable for your actions and reform needs to be taking place. the george floyd act needs to be passed. i'm going to get back to this family, okay, guys. >> reporter: yasmin. >> vaughn, thank you. stay close, my friend. i'll come back to you a little later on this hour as we see the
developments in elizabeth city, north carolina. thanks, vaughn. so the senate's recent passage of the covid hate crimes act could not arrive at a more crucial moment for our nation. according to the pew research center more than 80% of asian-americans fear that violence against them is increasing. hate crimes against asian-americans have spiked 1 69% in the first quarter of this year. with me to discuss how this could curb the rise in violence, a representative from california. congresswoman, thanks for joining us. i really appreciate it. you were actually born in a japanese internment camp on u.s. soil and you've spoken at length about how racist or hostile language is often a precursor for the type of violence that your family has in fact experienced. let me give you some numbers. 20% of asian-americans are now attribuing the violence to
their community to the former president's rhetoric against china and the coronavirus pandemic. do you see parallels between then and what the aapi is experiencing now? >> thank you, yasmin, for having me on today. i have to say, yes, i do see parallels. i didn't believe we'd have to keep talking about this. there have been upticks in anti-asian hate in the last five or six years, but this has been tremendous in the sense of how much of the uptick has happened. and, you know, my family's experience, i was born in an internment camp. my mother and father born in this country are both american citizens and yet they were put in an internment camp. it was a dark chapter in the lives of all of us. but also when you think about it, it's a dark chapter in america too. when there is such hate expressed and a sense of you're not part of this country and
you're foreigners. and that has sort of been an undercurrent through asian-americans for our history, even though a lot of us are five generations in. it doesn't matter. it doesn't matter. and so it's really -- what happens is that my family's history is a consequence of this hatred and the sense of otherness. you know, this hateful rhetoric just cannot continue because it leads to scapegoating and it definitely has led to violence. the whole idea of really targeting a specific group of people as being not like us, they're the other, they're foreigners, is very hateful. i really feel that asian-americans today are standing up. this can't happen at all. and so i'm proud of it. i'm proud of them. you know, you look at some of the things that happened with the vulnerability of particularly the seniors in our group who have been attacked,
just defenseless themselves. you think about the fact that we have children. i have grandchildren. they have never been exposed to this, but honestly they can be because when you designate just a group as being foreign and not like us, that impacts all of us. all of us as americans too, because we are in this as a country trying to be united to make it better. >> let's talk about the hate crimes act. the passage of it in the senate. here's what it involves. expedite justice department's review of hate crimes, requiring the department of justice to raise awareness about hate crime reporting and requiring the department of justice and department of health and human services to mitigate racially discriminatory language about covid. is it enough? >> you know what, yasmin, it's a real start, it truly is.
i have to say we really couldn't believe that this will pass the way it did with, you know, almost all unanimous in the senate. and the people understand now, and i think this is something that there are other communities who feel the same way. you look what's happening with the african-american community, latino community, they really feel that they understand what this is all about. so we have broad support. and i really feel that when we do something like this and we really declare that this is something that has to be addressed, the president of the united states, the vice president have been very, very supportive. we're not going to let this go. i really believe that asian-pacific american heritage month this year is really significant. we've always celebrated our cultures, our diverse groups of society, but this year we'll be very intentional about the fact that we need to do more. i really feel with the support that we have with the president
and vice president and the congress too, we'll be making some progress. >> congresswoman doris matsui, thank you. great to see you on this sunday afternoon. so 100 days and 100 million vaccinations, it was a promise that the white house has indeed doubled and with time to spare. now the biden administration is faced with what's next, including with quickly spreading variants and lingering vaccine hesitancy that could cripple the remainder of the rollout. i want to bring in nbc's heidi przybyla covering this for us. heidi, great to see you on this sunday. the president's first 100 days were marked by his goal to vaccinate hundreds of millions of americans. he did in fact succeed. what can we expect when it comes to the campaign to get folks vaccinated in the next 100 days, especially when we're seeing spikes in vaccine hesitancy? >> this might be the harder part despite all of the progress that has been made. we're now dealing with the holdouts. a lot of the people who really
wanted to get vaccinated have gotten vaccinated. so the name of the game now is accessibility. working, for instance, with primary care doctors who can be a positive influence on individuals who have not yet been vaccinated, convincing them to go ahead and do it. increaing the number of pharmacy appointments. you have the question about what's going to happen with the johnson & johnson vaccine and its accessibility. that was a vaccine being considered to use in some of these underserved areas and rural areas. they also have to tackle the question of the booster shots, right? believe it or not, we are about six months in to some individuals who were in that first tranche of people getting the vaccine and then really, yasmin, there's going to have to be much, much more focus on what's happening abroad in vaccine diplomacy because it is not going to work for us just to vaccinate and protect our own population. these other countries are proving to be petri dishes for double mutant variants which can
come back and potentially, potentially be resistant to the very vaccines that we're trying to use on everyone. >> heidi, vice president kamala harris expected to lead the second phase of the nation's covid response. what is that going to entail from her end? >> right. from her end we learned exclusively over the past few days that she's actually going to be leading this entire effort from the white house in terms of the public education campaign. and in interviewing white house officials, yasmin, it's really interesting because they actually really are concerned about this whole narrative of hesitancy being self-fulfilling because they say based on the data that they're using, the word hesitancy isn't exactly accurate when you're talking about the 22% to 30% of americans who say they're not going to get it now. a lot of it has to do actually with convenience. you know, we don't have the same type of health care system in this country that other countries do.
we don't have paid time off, for instance, for wage hourly workers who may want to go and get the vaccine. and then those who are really, truly hesitant, they say that it's actually only a narrow portion that are living in the fever swamps of conspiracy theories. these are individuals who may just have a couple of extra questions who could really be pushed over the line potentially by conversations with their primary care health doctors, and that's why, yasmin, so much of this really is about accessibility and just making sure that we are making it convenient for everyone to be vaccinated. >> all right, nbc news heidi przybyla for us. thank you, heidi. in the early hours of the morning spacex safely returned four astronauts to earth in the first nighttime splashdown in decades. they parachuted into the gulf of mexico near panama city, florida. this is the second flight for elon musk's company and the
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in this week's edition of "in the spotlight" my next guest sat down to break down those whitewashing claims and what needs to be done to hold conservative lawmakers account able. >> it's important when people try to revise history for themselves and brush things under the rug which we're seeing on the republican side of the house right now, i think it's important for people to remember and have a reminder to the voters of what's really happened here. so that's partially why we launched the republican accountability project. we launched it after january 6th and everything that happened that day in an effort to, one, support the republicans that voted to convict and impeach trump and take a stand for democracy and twofold to really call out the rest of the republicans who were basically enabling this entire situation.
and with the stop the steal narrative and the big lie, trump didn't do this by himself. >> joining me now is a.g., as she calls herself, allison gill, host of the daily beans podcast. allison, thanks for joining us. really appreciate it. are you with your mom? did you see your mom this weekend? i heard you had gotten vaccinated and you were going to see your mom for the first time in a year this weekend, right? >> yes, that's right, yasmin. i'm actually at my mom's house right now in arizona. i'm honored to be here. thank you so much for having me. yeah, it's been wonderful to see my mom. it's been over a year. >> awesome. while you're there, check in on that recount, will you? make sure nothing nefarious is happening. let's talk about your interview with olivia troye and kind of the republicans' attempts, it seems, to essentially rewrite history. i actually thought it was interesting at one point you asked olivia to grade some of the lawmakers, like hawley, like
mccarthy, like mcconnell. how dangerous is it that so many of these republicans refuse to stand up and say this was wrong and rewrite history the way that they see it now versus the way they saw it on that day? >> that was one of the questions that i had asked olivia, because, you know, she's former department of homeland security senior advisor. i wanted an expert's opinion on exactly how that sort of imperils our national security. and, you know, we're going to start looking at a huge push of disinformation from our adversaries in the coming ten to 12 months as the fbi has put out in a warning statement, probably based in retaliation against the sanctions that president biden has put in against vladimir putin. but that makes us extremely susceptible to disinformation. and when the country is so
divided as it is, perpetuating that big lie just makes us more divided and puts us more at risk. >> i want to play another portion of your podcast from friday talking about your sexual assault, your own sexual assault in the military. >> i am a survivor of military sexual trauma. i am a disabled veteran because of it. and we pushed so hard to get them to take commanders out of the chain of command. and this is what's not in the story, you know, hopefully i can help you understand this is the reason they want to take commanders out of the chain of command because commanders have a vested interest in how many rapes and sexual assaults occur in their command. they can get in trouble for having too many sexual assaults in their command. and so, they tend to brush it under the rug. >> it's astounding to hear you talk about that the way in which you do, allison. why do you think the effort to reform the way the military
handles sexual assault cases has changed so little? >> i think there's a lot of reactionary politics going on here. i mean it was clearly a problem. we did the -- i was in the documentary "the invisible war" in 2012 and that's when kirsten gillibrand really began her push to get commanders out of the decision-making process as to whether or not to prosecute sexual assault. and, you know, i think it's -- the reason that it's just been so slow going is because a lot of politicians and commanders were pushing back. they wanted to wait and see if maybe they could put together some programs that might deter or curb sexual assault. it just hasn't worked. and i think that now that we have that empirical evidence of it not working, there's a push now for a sea change, to change the tide and take the commanders out of the chain of command. not the chain of command, but whether or not to prosecute these assaults.
and so i think that's why it was quiet for so long and now it's been brought to the forefront again. honestly, joni ernst now has joined kirsten gillibrand and he's former national guard. she was a commander and a sexual assault survivor. her daughter has had some issues at west point as well. i think that that is actually helping getting a more bipartisan group of people together. and also lloyd austin, his first act as our secretary of defense, was to assemble that commission to look into this issue. it's been a terrible ongoing pervasive issue for so long now and i'm so glad that it's finally starting to see some steam. >> all right, allison gill, thank you for sharing that for us. it's a great podcast. tune into allison on the daily beans podcast wherever you get your podcasts. have fun with your mom, allison, after a year of not seeing her and congratulations on getting vaccinated. new episodes drop every sipping
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here. as you can see, there is smoke swirling around old trafford. there are fans on the goal net in front of the stratford end and these are extraordinary scenes, the like of which i've never seen before. >> joining me now from london, nbc's molly hunter with the latest on this. give us more of the details of what actually took place, molly. >> reporter: hey, yasmin. just extraordinary scenes as you just heard. you see those pictures, incredibly violent. just to set the stage, manchester united and liverpool were going to play an incredibly important game today. the man u fans have been really angry about the super league but just general anger toward their american management. manchester united is owned by joel glazer who also owns the tampa bay buccaneers. there were thousands protesting and hundreds broke in. fans weren't even allowed inside
the stadium so to break in is a huge deal. and then to do the damage they did, you saw the flares and them throwing things. they say we understand the respect and strength of feeling but condemn all acts of violence. you didn't see any police in those video. the police did come and clear the scene. the entire scene is now clear. the police have told nbc news two officers have been injured. one officer was attacked with a bottle and sustained a significant slash wound to his face requiring emergency hospital treatment. this is a dramatic day and another date for that match has not been set. yasmin. >> molly hunter for us in london. thank you, molly. coming up in our next hour, everybody, we are continuing to follow the breaking news out of north carolina. emotional protests in the police shooting of andrew brown jr. ahead of his funeral. we'll take you there live once again. and a one-on-one with south carolina congressman jim
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congressman james clyburn, house majority whip, about that in just a moment. also this hour, a rough recession for one anti-trump republican. >> i know how the fact that i wasn't a fan of our last president's character issues -- >> senator romney gets booed in his home state by the gop faithful. we'll look at republicans who cross the former president. also this hour as new york city is looking towards reopening completely this summer, i am going to talk to celebrity city of marcus samuelson about what that means for his industry. that is coming up. also in north carolina, a viewing for andrew brown jr. ahead of a funeral tomorrow where the reverend al sharpton will give the eulogy. brown was shot and killed on april 21st by county sheriff's deputies while serving warrants related to federal drug charges. a short time ago a call for peaceful protests as people hit the streets for the 1